01 / THE SIGNAL

我们发现了什么

我们构建能够为半导体行业发现新材料的AI代理。

  • 来源:Hacker News(发现于 2026-08-13)
  • 证据等级:D · 发现产品或需求信号,暂未获得可核验的商业证据。
  • 商业模式:License / Enterprise Contract
  • 主题:AI Agent
  • 初筛评分:20/100 · 收录 1 次
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02 / SOURCE & EVIDENCE

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中文辅助译文(全文)

你好 HN,我们是 Advaith 和 Akash,来自 Discovered Materials(https://discoveredmaterials.com/ )。我们构建用于为半导体行业发现新材料的 AI 智能体。当前的 GPU 存在散热问题。Nvidia 和 AMD 在每一代芯片中几乎都将 TDP(热设计功耗)翻倍——H100(2022 年发布)的 TDP 为 700W,Blackwell(2024 年)散发出 1.2 kW 的热量,Rubin(2026 年)则散发出 2.3 kW 的热量。预计这一趋势将会持续,而如何消除这些热量正是当今数据中心消耗大量电力和水资源的主要原因之一——它们需要这些资源来保持芯片运行时的冷却。芯片产生的热量及其散热能力都受到制造所用材料的影响。例如,我们可以通过 3D 封装芯片(将 HBM 存储堆栈直接置于逻辑芯片之上,而不是将其与逻辑芯片并排放置在 2D 电路板上)将逻辑与存储之间数据传输所需的单位比特能耗降低 10 到 50 倍。然而,我们今天还无法做到这一点,因为 HBM 中使用的电介质材料(如 SiO2)的导热性能很差,会将热量困在逻辑和存储之间,从而在运行过程中导致温度急剧上升。类似地,GPU 中还有许多其他材料正在被重新评估——另外两个例子是热界面材料和基板。然而,将一种新材料引入晶圆厂需要数年时间和数亿美元的研究投入——这就是臭名昭著的"实验室到晶圆厂的死亡谷"。

在 Discovered Materials,我们对 AI 智能体能够缩短将新材料引入半导体芯片所需的时间并降低成本持乐观态度。我们已经看到了这一点的一些端倪——我们测试了来自 Anthropic、OpenAI 和 Kimi 的 7 个模型,发现它们都能够通过计算发现动态稳定且具有良好特性的新材料。这让我们感到惊讶——通常一位博士生需要花费数周时间才能发现这些模型在 8 小时运行中所发现的那类材料!然而,计算发现只是简单的部分。一种材料发现只有在能够在实验室中制造和测试时才有效(举个例子,石墨烯的特性在 1947 年就被预测出来,但直到 2004 年才首次被制造出来)。如今的模型并不擅长提出合成配方以在实验室中制造材料。即使它们在这方面变得更好,我们也不确定这将有多大帮助——制造一种新材料是一个高度依赖经验的过程,需要在多次实验中反复试错。即使是人类专家也无法"一次性"完成这项任务,但我们期望一个能力足够强的模型将能够减少制造新材料所需的实验迭代次数。在我们 Y Combinator 这三个月的批次中,我们已经看到了一些证据——我们模拟、合成并测试了热界面材料(TIM),其性能可与全球最大化工公司保密了 20 多年的 TIM 相媲美。我们正在发布由前沿 AI 模型发现的数百种新材料,以及我们在此处(也在帖子链接中)的用于衡量模型在材料发现方面能力的基准测试:https://discoveredmaterials.com/research 。

它涵盖了我们上面讨论的内容,以及我们从模型中观察到的各种奇怪行为,例如 Claude 的奖励作弊倾向,或 GPT-5.6 在处理约 5000 万个 token 后偶尔"发疯"的情况。

我们的商业模式:我们旨在授权和销售我们所发现材料的知识产权,以及关于如何制造这些材料的知识产权。我们也在探索另一种备选商业模式,即将我们用于发现材料的工具链与工具一并出售给半导体和化工企业,使它们能够自主发现材料。我们倾向于先从后者开始,但我们预计长期来看两种模式都会采用。

我们的背景:Akash 拥有斯坦福大学的材料科学博士学位,并在过去 11 年中致力于研究用于半导体芯片的新材料。他在新型纳米互连线方面的研究成果是斯坦福工程学院 2025 年最受欢迎的报道。Advaith 在卡内基梅隆大学学习 AI,曾在 Persona AI(已被收购)和 Luma Labs 担任研究工程师,负责构建视频模型和智能体。

我们非常希望听到您的意见!半导体行业相当封闭,您对该行业路线图或我们应该攻关的材料的看法将对我们非常有帮助。我们也非常乐意听到曾在实验室中做过实验的人士的分享——从你们进行经验性科学的经验中,我们能学到什么?

译文由上游机器翻译生成,可能有误;判断请以英文原文为准。

英文原文(来源本站未改写)

Hey HN, we're Advaith and Akash from Discovered Materials ( https://discoveredmaterials.com/ ).We build AI agents that discover new materials for the semiconductor industry.GPUs today have a heat problem.Nvidia & AMD are almost doubling the TDP (Thermal Design Power) in every chip they release - the H100 (released 2022) has a TDP of 700W, Blackwell (2024) gives out 1.2 kW and Rubin (2026) gives out at 2.3 kW of heat.This trend is expected to continue, and getting rid of this heat is one of the major reasons datacenters consume so much power and water today - they need it to keep chips cool during operation.

The amount of heat produced by a chip and its ability to dissipate it are both influenced by the materials used to make it.For example, we could reduce the energy per bit required to move data between logic and memory by 10-50x by 3D packaging chips (placing HBM memory stacks directly on top of logic chips, instead of placing them beside logic on a 2D circuit board).However, we're unable to do this today because the dielectric material used in HBM (such as SiO2) is a very poor thermal conductor, trapping heat between logic and memory and causing drastic temperature rise during operation.

Similarly, there's many other materials in the GPU that are being re-evaluated today - 2 more examples are thermal interface materials and substrates.However, getting a new material into a fab takes years and hundreds of millions of dollars of research - the infamous "lab-to-fab valley of death".At Discovered Materials, we're optimistic that AI agents can reduce the timeline and cost required to introduce new materials into semiconductor chips.We're seeing glimpses of this already - we tested 7 models from Anthropic, OpenAI and Kimi, and found that they're all able to computationally discover new materials that are dynamically stable and possess promising properties.

This was surprising to us - it would generally take a PhD student a couple of weeks of work to discover the kind of materials that these models find over an 8 hour run!However, computational discovery is the easy part.A material discovery is only valid if the material can be made and tested in a lab (As an example, graphene’s properties were predicted in 1947 but it was made for the first time in 2004).Today’s models are not good at coming up with synthesis recipes to make materials in a lab.Even if they do get better at it, we're uncertain about how much that will help - making a new material is a highly empirical process involving trial and error over many experiments.

Human experts themselves cannot "one-shot" the task, but we expect that a highly capable model will reduce the number of experimental iterations required to make a new material.We’ve seen some evidence of this over the 3 months of our Y Combinator batch - we simulated, synthesized and tested thermal interface materials (TIMs) that match the performance of TIMs the world's largest chemical companies have guarded as trade secrets for over 20 years.We’re releasing hundreds of hundreds of new materials discovered by frontier AI models, as well as our benchmark which measures model ability on material discovery here (also linked in the thread url): https://discoveredmaterials.com/research .

It covers what we discuss above, as well as a variety of strange behavior that we observe from the models, such as Claude's propensity to reward hack or GPT-5.6 occasionally losing its mind after ~50M tokens.Our business model: We aim to license and sell IP on the materials we discover, as well as the IP on how to make these materials.We're also exploring an alternate business model where we sell the harness+tools we use to discover materials to semiconductor and chemical companies, allowing them to discover materials on their own.We're leaning towards the latter to start, but we expect that we'll do both in the long run.

Our backstory: Akash has a PhD in Material Science from Stanford University, and has spent the last 11 years studying new materials for semiconductor chips.His work on new nanoscale interconnects was Stanford Engineering’s most popular story of 2025.Advaith studied AI at Carnegie Mellon and was a research engineer building video models and agents at Persona AI (acquired) and Luma Labs.We are very interested in your opinion!The semiconductor industry is quite secretive, and your thoughts on the roadmap of the industry or the materials we should go after would be very helpful.

We would also love to hear from people who have run experiments in labs - what can we learn from your experience doing empirical science?

出处https://discoveredmaterials.com/research抓取日期 · 采集源 Hacker News

03 / EVIDENCE GAPS

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通用验证清单(谁有这个问题/谁愿意付费/一个人能交付哪一小步)见我们的筛选方法。

04 / SIGNAL HISTORY

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