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这是我最新的副业项目 OctoLoops:一款帮助独立开发者和中小企业为其业务寻找付费客户的应用。这个想法据称很简单:在网页界面中实现一些任何人都能轻松运行的“智能体循环”——无需下载或安装 Claude Code,也没有复杂性,同时由人类参与其中。
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你好,HN!这是我最新的副业项目 OctoLoops:一款帮助独立开发者和中小企业为他们的业务找到付费用户的应用。我大约在两个月前开始构建 OctoLoops,因为我自己的很多项目,无论大小,都因为缺乏用户以及随之而来的宝贵反馈而失败或不了了之。当我开始认真深挖时,我发现分发是一个深不见底的兔子洞。我读得越多,就越发现自己有多么无知。但我想学习——而且我真的想把这些学习成果也应用到我所有的新项目中,以一种可重复、尽可能自动化的方式。还有什么比构建一个分发应用更好的方式来实施这个计划呢?这个想法据说很简单:在网页 UI 中实现一些任何人都能轻松运行的"智能体循环"——无需下载或安装 Claude Code,没有复杂性,由人来把关。一个简单的浏览器内智能体框架,赋予它一些超能力,让它完成工作。我很快便推出了它,并立即开始亲身试用,运行 Community Loop。它在 Reddit 上找到了来自那些做出了很酷产品但如今在寻找和获取用户方面束手无策的建设者的帖子。它为我起草回复,并给出"垃圾信息风险"评分,因为没错——许多营销和销售形式都走在信号与赤裸裸的垃圾信息之间的微妙界限上——然后我开始实际运行这些循环。我经常自己编辑或撰写回复;有时我会从消息中删除 OctoLoops 的提及。它起作用了。我现在有约 50 个用户,其中包括一家已有营收的 B2B 初创公司,他们有兴趣使用 Outbound loop。但已经出现了一些重大挑战,我想在这里坦诚分享,希望对其他公开建设的开发者有所帮助。1. 激活。这是目前我最大的痛点。
我的 Community loops 是有效的——我能让人们注册、输入邮箱,而且我知道确实存在一些购买意向。但人们常常登录一次之后就不再使用这款应用。我联系过一些用户,他们说这在一定程度上是因为他们不想在那些自己还没有真正融入的社区里推广自己的应用。不想表现得粗鲁或像发垃圾信息,冒名顶替综合征——任何做过营销的人都能理解。我正在尝试通过打造一个更精简、不那么杂乱的 UX 来解决一些激活问题,但我不确定该如何激励人们真正认真使用这款应用。也许是缺少成果展示?视频教程?2. 产品聚焦。在研究竞争对手时,我注意到大多数都有一个共同点:它们只专注于一件事——自动化外联;自动化广告;关键词监控。似乎没多少人在尝试打造一个完全自主的全渠道 GTM 智能体,因为这工作量太大。我决定把已经构建好的大多数渠道隐藏在 UI 之后,让用户专注于社区外联和外销。现在说这是否是正确的选择还为时过早,而且我知道我自己仍然在为 OctoLoops 遵循全渠道策略。3. 优先级排序。我相信每个人都会这么说,但:内容策略;SEO;社交媒体;自我试用……试图与用户交流,理解为什么我还没有解决他们的问题、还没有交付他们想要的结果。努力让我潜在的企業客户留在销售漏斗里。实现新功能——但要做哪些呢?还要跟上智能体应用和整个 AI 那疯狂的步伐:现在有太多事情正在发生,到处都是炒作和胡说八道,有时很难分辨什么是真的。所以这就是我现在的状态,两个月过去了。这已经是一段有趣的旅程。任何问题我都乐于回答。
也欢迎批评——我认识到有些人会认为这是在为已经泛滥的垃圾信息和低质内容添砖加瓦,但这说实话是我在试图寻找的平衡,我很想听听大家关于在 2026 年如何做销售和营销而不把人逼疯的意见。
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英文原文(来源本站未改写)
Hi HN!This is my latest side hustle, OctoLoops: an app to help indie devs and SMEs find paying customers for their business.I first started building OctoLoops around 2 months ago because so many of my own projects, big and small, had failed or petered out from lack of users and the valuable feedback that comes with them.When I started seriously digging, I found that distribution is one heck of a rabbit hole.The more I read, the more I found how much I didn't know.But I wanted to learn - and I really wanted to apply that learning too, to all my new projects, in a repeatable, autonomous-as-possible way.What better way to implement this plan than building a distribution app?
The idea was supposedly simple: implement a handful of "agentic loops" that anyone could easily run, in a web UI - no downloads or installing Claude Code, no complexity, human stays in the loop.A simple agentic harness in the browser with some superpowers to let it do its job.I launched it quite soon after, and immediately started dogfooding, running the Community Loop.It found threads across Reddit from all those builders who'd made something cool, but were now at a loss when it came to finding and acquiring users.
It drafted replies for me and gave a "spam risk", because yes - many kinds of marketing and sales walk a fine line between signal and blatant spam - and I started working the loops.Often I'd edit or write the replies myself;sometimes I'd remove the OctoLoops mention from the message.It worked.I now have ~50 users, including one from a post-revenue B2B startup interested in using the Outbound loop.But there have been significant challenges already that I want to be open about here, in the hope that it helps other public builders. 1.Activation.This is currently my #1 pain point.My Community loops work - I can get people to sign up, enter their email, and I know there's even some buying intent.
But people often log in once, then don't use the app.I've reached out to users, and they've said it's partly just that they don't want to post their app in communities they don't yet feel a real part of.Resistance to being rude or spammy, imposter syndrome - anyone who's done any marketing can identify.I'm trying to solve some of the issues of activation by building a more streamlined, less cluttered UX, but I'm not sure how to motivate people to really use the app in earnest.Maybe it's missing evidence of outcomes?Video tutorials?2.Product focus.While researching competitors, what I notice most have in common is they focus on one thing: automated outbound;automated advertising;
keyword monitoring.Not many people seem to be trying to make a fully autonomous omnichannel GTM agent, because that's too much.I decided to hide most of the channels I'd built already behind UI so users focus on community outreach and outbound sales.It's too early to say if that's the right call, and I know I'm still following an omnichannel strategy for OctoLoops itself. 3.Prioritising.I'm sure everyone says this, but: content strategy;SEO;socials;dogfooding... trying to talk to users, to understand why I'm not yet solving their problems and delivering them the outcomes they want.Attempting to keep my potential corporate customer in the funnel.Implementing new features - but which ones?
And keeping up with the insane pace of agentic apps and AI at large: so much is happening right now, hype and BS is everywhere, sometimes it's hard to know what's real.So that's where I'm at, 2 months down the line.It's already been a fun journey.Any questions I'm happy to answer.Criticism is welcome too - I recognize some will view this as contributing to the already high volume of spam and slop out there, but that's honestly a balance I'm trying to find, and I'd love to hear opinions on how people should do sales and marketing in 2026 without driving people crazy.
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